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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:05:00 -
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If you had to choose who the finest artists were as far as writing, out of the following list, how would you rate them, and who would you exclude or add to the list?
Clark Ashton Smith Shakespeare Poe John Keats Stephen King George Martin
Maybe the list should be separated between greatest prose writers, and great poets. Whatever, too late.
I find it hard to sort them, personally, but I give Smith the top spot just for the beauty of his language. His stories weren't the greatest but you don't read an artist like Smith for the character or the story but rather the language. His art speaks of forgotten ages, of yearning for lost time and the quests to regain that time. Vintage at it's very best.
Of course, Shakespeare had many great poems, I'm still struggling to dissect Macbeth and come up with answers to everything the story poses.
"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out! Brief candle, life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sounds and furies, and signifies nothing."
Poe did a lot of great work as well, and so did Keats. I include Steve King and Georgie Boy Martin because... well, damn, they are great writers! The Dark Tower series and A Song of Ice and Fire are both unreal, even though I find the HBO series of Game of Thrones to be a bit too much like a soap opera and I think he's built up this series so much I am not sure if he can find a suitable ending for it, it is what it is, and they both have many great works other than their main series' as well, and in a diverse group of genres ranging everywhere from horror to science fiction to mystery to contemporary.
So, who is, or was, the greatest writer? "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:This is like asking who is better: Dvorak or RUSH.
They are not even operating in the same mode. Well that ain't a fair comparison because Rush is god and Dvorak was a clown.
Either way, every human operates in their own mode. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:53:00 -
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I forgot about HP Lovecraft and Arthur Machen, neither were as good as Smith imo, but they probably deserve to be on the list. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:07:00 -
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Graygor wrote: What about Tolkien? He pretty much created the modern fantasy genre.
Meh. True, but there are others that deserve that credit as well.
Of course there is natural human bias here because I am just not a big fan of Tolkien, but I don't think his writing was all that great. And his characters sing too much, which can be cool in a quasi-mythical way, but meh. I don't really care for his bushy Scandinavian settings or his British characters either but to each their own and I got to give credit where it is due of course, the man is a legend. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 17:03:00 -
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Is that Weird Al? "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 18:05:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:The. Thing. About. Ernest. Hemingway. Is. That. He. Never. Used. Long. Sentences. At. All. Do you know what they say about guys who like long sentences? "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 18:52:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Dorian Tormak wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:The. Thing. About. Ernest. Hemingway. Is. That. He. Never. Used. Long. Sentences. At. All. Do you know what they say about guys who like long sentences? They don't know what to do when they get a period? I was thinking it had something to do with a colon, but that works. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:30:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I reject the op's list and substitute my own.
Joseph Heller Douglas Adams Graham Greene George Orwell James Joyce Jack Kerouac
In that order. Douglas Adams was a ******* hipster doofus.
Oh I want to add Charles Baudelaire and Lewis Carroll to my list of greats. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:01:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Don't know half the names you posted here.
But I'd add Isaac Asimov and Stanislaw Lem to that list. Dostoevsky and Asimov were great. I'd probably put Asimov in the top 20 somewhere. Stanislaw Lem... eewwwwww "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:
But I'd add Isaac Asimov and Stanislaw Lem to that list.
Sorry but I have to disagree. I love Asimov. He comes up with great story ideas. But his writing itself is abyssmal. Boring. Cardboard characters. They are all the same. There is no difference in tone at all in works as divergent as Foundation and the Robot novels. Great ideas but seriously generic actual writing. True, except as far as character goes, that doesn't necessarily have to do with the writing, but it's more to do with the preference of the artist. Some great writers don't necessarily have great characters or even a great story, but I agree for the most part his writing was very basic. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
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Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.04 14:34:00 -
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Geez guys, there's too many authors listed here for me to even bother looking up, nevermind reading them all :p
Guess I got a lot of work to do. Where to start though? I'd like to give Douglas Adams another try to be honest. I wonder how the books compare to the movie.
Currently reading A Dance With Dragons, Wizard and Glass, and The Living Dead Featuring Stories by Clive Barker and other big names. Going to add one more books to the pile so I will have a look around next time I go out. "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:51:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:I personally think Clive Barker is as good as or better than Stephen King, but I am typically called a heretic for saying that Just had to throw that single comment out there as I like a majority of the authors presented so far. I also spit on my screen from laughter at some of the posts above as well. What's a good book by Clive Barker? I tried reading Imajica a few years back but that was too much for me at the time.
I will probably look out for both Catch 22 and the Dirk Gently (Dirk Diggler?) series. Wait wtf is Dirk Diggler? For some reason I thought that was off of Red Dwarf.
Ok. It's Dwayne Dibbley off of Red Dwarf. Dwayne Dibbley. Lol classic. I don't ever want God to hear our screams... and mistake them for prayers... |
Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:54:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Dorian Tormak wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:I personally think Clive Barker is as good as or better than Stephen King, but I am typically called a heretic for saying that Just had to throw that single comment out there as I like a majority of the authors presented so far. I also spit on my screen from laughter at some of the posts above as well. What's a good book by Clive Barker? I tried reading Imajica a few years back but that was too much for me at the time. I will probably look out for both Catch 22 and the Dirk Gently (Dirk Diggler?) series. Wait wtf is Dirk Diggler? For some reason I thought that was off of Red Dwarf. Ok. It's Dwayne Dibbley off of Red Dwarf. Dwayne Dibbley. Lol classic. Dirk Diggler is the main character from the film "Boogie Nights". I think it's nap-time for you. I just woke up, dude. And yes I found that out when I did a search for Dirk Diggler thinking it was from Red Dwarf.
Can't you come up with a better troll attempt than that? Like COME ON, SON
And before you say "oh wah wah, I'm not your son!" Yes, you must be my son, because your mom keeps bugging me for child support. I told her that no son of mine would be that "retarted", but she is so damned insistent. I don't ever want God to hear our screams... and mistake them for prayers... |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:56:00 -
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Discussing my beauty rest might be considered off topic. Just saying. I don't ever want God to hear our screams... and mistake them for prayers... |
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